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LANES REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS

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LANES REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#0
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:05am
Did anyone see Nathan Lane's first replacement in THE PRODUCERS? The one who got fired after only a few weeks. I just wondered what his performance was like and if he deserved to go.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#1
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:07am
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#2
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:09am
My uncle saw him.

The man was boring and terrible.

Mel Brooks admitted to his folly.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#3
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:17am
I thought Gene Gabriel was his understudy. Thank God Nathan and Matthew were both in the show when I saw it. I love them together. Oh and Brad Garrett was hysterical.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#4
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:18am
Wrong show.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#5
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:19am
Not The Odd Couple. The Producers.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#6
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:26am
Oops.. sorry... I really should go to bed as I am typing while I am half asleep.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#7
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:26am
I rather enjoyed Henry Goodman. I thought he and Steven Weber worked good together.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#8
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:27am
^WELL^ together.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#9
Posted: 12/17/05 at 2:33am
COUGHgrammanaziCOUGH
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#10
Posted: 12/17/05 at 10:00am
Goodman created a dark and more threatening vision of Max that just did not work. He is a fine actor but was NOT meant for that role and Brooks made a similar mistake with Dreyfuss in the U.K. That one would have cost them big time if Lane hadn't bailed out their butts by going over there.

Brad Oscar is probably the only other Max I've really liked. Once he came into his own in the role, he was really marvelous.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#11
Posted: 12/17/05 at 11:26am
I saw him in his first week. He was dropping a lot of lines and getting lyrics screwed up. Just not a good fit for him.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#12
Posted: 12/17/05 at 11:39am
SamIAm....Lewis Stadlen does it amazingly.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#13
Posted: 12/17/05 at 12:17pm
lol bsobw2
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#14
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:08pm
Was Goodman's interpretation of the role different, or was he just bad at imitating Nathan Lane? Or just plain bad? The reason I ask is beacuse I've seen him in other things and he's a wonderful actor.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#15
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:12pm
I agree he was nothing short of wonderfull in Tartuffe (sp?)
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#16
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:12pm
Why was the guy fired?
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#17
Posted: 12/17/05 at 8:13pm
Goodman's interpretaion of Max was darker than Lane's. I personally enjoyed that way of playing it.
when ducks grow thumbs then maybe my opinion will change.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#18
Posted: 12/17/05 at 10:02pm
if his max is anything like his billy flynn i can see why he got canned. I for one found his Flynn to be horrid on the london revival recording, he seemd to make billy too nice at all the wrong times and not nearly sleazy enough.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#19
Posted: 12/18/05 at 8:59pm
You can tell all that from the CD? How do you know how sleazy his performance was if you didn't see it. He got rave reviews in the role.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#20
Posted: 12/18/05 at 9:25pm
well i'll rephrase, just for you. In the dialogue portions of the cd, in particular his section in mr. cellophane he didn't come off cold and conniving as i like my billy flynns (and how i play him) he seemed to literally be asking the question, as opposed to making a statement and really emphasizing the "would ya" part. Things like that led me to my conclusion. Also i watched some documentary on the making of the london production several times(it was on a video tape of tv appearances i got offline) and what it showed supported my views.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#21
Posted: 12/20/05 at 12:23am
i still think you're full of it, but everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinion.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#22
Posted: 12/20/05 at 1:53pm
I love Lewis Stadlen too (his Banjo was a thing of beauty), but I have heard people say they didn't like his Max.

I think that Oscar is probably second to Lane but I would love to see Stadlen play the role.

As for Goodman, and his being dark...the idea that this show (which is supposed to be a musical comedy) could support over two and a half hours of a Max that was somewhat unlikable was not something that the creative team bought into.

Goodman IS a wonderful actor, but not everyone is cut out to play every role.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#23
Posted: 12/20/05 at 4:33pm
I adore Lewis Stadlen, his Pangloss (and other characters) in Candide is still one of my favorite performances, not to mention his Banjo, but I found his Max too one dimensional.

I saw Henry Goodman right before he was fired and I thought his Max was very good. The producers and "creative" team obviously wanted a carbon copy of Nathan Lane. Well if they wanted that, they should never have hired an accomplished actor who probably has never copied a performance in his career. This shows the lack of creatvity of the "creative" team. But then since most of them went on to do the bomb of a movie known as The Producers, they have shown just how uncreative they really are.
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re: LANE'S REPLACEMENT IN THE PRODUCERS#24
Posted: 12/20/05 at 5:08pm
I won't disagree with you because we are all entitled to our opinion, but I will say that I know several people who watched Goodman during the rehearsal process and said he just didn't GET the character. I am not insulting him as an actor. I happen to think he is very good, but I repeat...I don't think he was right for Max.

As for the movie...I've seen it twice and happened to enjoy the throwback to the old movie musicals and I understand Brooks' desire to capture the stage show (as closely as possible) for posterity.

If you don't care for the show in general (which it appears you do not) I would say it may be hard for you to objective about the show, Lane's replacements OR the movie.
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